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Requesting Mapmaking Help
TinyRaskalsDate: Saturday, 2011-05-14, 4:49:23 PM | Message # 211
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o.o dunno if i have to pm or post....
so ill post :DD

can i join ur map making team?
apparently u got like 3 ppl (including urself)
and theres like.....a bazillion bugs
ik how to remove leaks and code GUI (better with JASS tho >.>....GUI takes too long to click....i rather type it out)

and even if i dont get in....lemme suggest....
rebalancing the chars or something
cause having ppl play like 5 characters when there are like 50 is kinda boring
some chars have crappy set dmg atks (like 2000 dmg at skill lvl 4....is USELESS in higher lvls....heck even past 50 or so)
and other chars (only 1 or 2) dont have that attribute bonus......which sucks o.o

oh yea o.o and ur tooltips are fked up xDD

 
GhostWolf223Date: Saturday, 2011-05-14, 4:55:00 PM | Message # 212
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thats why Cryo is updated heroes/tooltips :P

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TinyRaskalsDate: Saturday, 2011-05-14, 5:00:02 PM | Message # 213
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lol fyi...i didnt read this entire thread~ xDDDDD

and......woot -665 >:) no more -666 for u ^^

-.- this security code thing after every post is annoying....

 
GhostWolf223Date: Saturday, 2011-05-14, 6:03:48 PM | Message # 214
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RAGE RAGE RAGEEE

cryo needs to hurry up biggrin


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Sandman366Date: Monday, 2011-05-16, 2:07:58 PM | Message # 215
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RAGE RAGE RAGEEE
cryo needs to hurry up

We have like 3-5 people working on it.....why can't we get any feedback? sad

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SINCE 0.66

If you had to completely redo one part of the map, what would be worst? I'm guessing the triggers. I'm also guessing you might need to redo them all just to fix this.
And btw, lol. Close the red man. You even got your sig red!

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well.... the trigger might cross over other triggers to work so you would have to change all the triggers around so they dont interfer with eachother

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It doesnt.

It could, in theory. It could be that something is making some kinda memory leak that's completely ruining another section of triggers, which causes another section of triggers to fail, and domino effect to half the map. Something bugs, something else bugs from that, and it just chains.
Perhaps we need someone trained in hypothetical/theoretical mapmaking instead of actual mapmaking O_o *shivers at the thought*


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AlexengDate: Monday, 2011-05-16, 2:29:36 PM | Message # 216
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Can finaly post again after the 3-day ban. Not complaining or anything, if I got it I deserved it.

@DC: found the error. Some options with the optimization can mess with the triggers. I optimized it once and the level commad didn't work, and when I optimized it again with some different options it worked.

Oh, and I found 2 new delays.
1) Item restrictions don't work because it changes all indexes when I try to change one. Might have a fix for it, but I don't feel like rewriting it atm.
2) Colosseum dialog can't be accessed past the first menu due to a bug with string comparison, so have to remake small parts of it.

Don't worry about not getting to test it, you will. Just wanted to make sure it works at all.


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GhostWolf223Date: Monday, 2011-05-16, 3:07:12 PM | Message # 217
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so i was partialy right on the triggers ^.^

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Sandman366Date: Monday, 2011-05-16, 3:20:00 PM | Message # 218
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so i was partialy right on the triggers ^.^

I think we were, only we didn't think about the optimizer being the trigger to screw over other triggers

How's progress guys? (Obviously we know Alexeng's, but Cryo?)


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TinyRaskalsDate: Monday, 2011-05-16, 6:42:43 PM | Message # 219
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huh >.> now y do i feel ignored....
ah well hope u get next ver rdy soon o.o (minus all the bugs pl0x)
 
darkchaosDate: Monday, 2011-05-16, 6:47:34 PM | Message # 220
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Alexeng if you found the solution to my problem I >3 you

 
Sandman366Date: Monday, 2011-05-16, 8:16:12 PM | Message # 221
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Alexeng if you found the solution to my problem I >3 you

"And will even spell your name right." (LOL sorry....couldn't resist)
However, I'm guessing he probably has. If the fault cannot be found in-house, look at your outsourced stuff.

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huh >.> now y do i feel ignored....

I wasn't around. I usually end up replying to most posts and comment on them and strangely enough occasionally comment on my own comments. Usually only in my head though.
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rebalancing the chars or something
cause having ppl play like 5 characters when there are like 50 is kinda boring

It's called updating them. Only like 7-8 are used because they have stat based skills (or a truly epic master-of-the-game skill that people LOVE) which actually is worth something when you're fighting something that has over a million HP, takes 3% damage from armor type, and has armor amount on top of that
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some chars have crappy set dmg atks (like 2000 dmg at skill lvl 4....is USELESS in higher lvls....heck even past 50 or so)
and other chars (only 1 or 2) dont have that attribute bonus......which sucks o.o

Yeah...again...updating the heroes. And not having attrib bonus only really sucks if you've only got yourself to rely on..and maybe 1 other person...and you're making new characters. I mean, I can solo a new guy without getting attrib bonus for several levels. After level 100 it's just for kicks, and after level 600 it's kinda useless (Yay...level 730 or so attrib bonus....8-9k all stats.....woot? I've got....an item...level 625 req.....24k all stats.....and a crit....and gives money when I'm done with it...and just feels far more useful....)
And anyway, what characters don't have attrib bonus? O_o
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oh yea o.o and ur tooltips are fked up xDD

Sets are on purpose (DC was lazy/wanted newer ver out faster/MysticProphet seems to have vanish [far as I can tell])
Others are because someone got a D in high school in English. Or didn't take it in school at all. Or was just very lazy with writing them. The map's had a few guys making it...for somewhat unrelated projects. There was CoT, then CoT2: PoM, now DC is making CoT2:PoM FoC. (Shouldn't it technically be CoT3: FoC?)

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lol fyi...i didnt read this entire thread~ xDDDDD
and......woot -665 >:) no more -666 for u ^^
-.- this security code thing after every post is annoying....

Should've, but who reads a 14-15 page thread for their first post in it? Lol
Hehehe....I find you amusing.
The letters with a white BG is NICE! You should see some of the crap we had before. Sometimes it didn't look like there were 4 numbers (when there always were)...and once or twice I went like 5-8 times in a row getting it wrong!!

Edit: HAHAHA even if it's too long the first time around you can edit it and make it longer ahaaha


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TinyRaskalsDate: Tuesday, 2011-05-17, 5:19:25 AM | Message # 222
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walls of text Dx
and dang everyone uses quotes around here -.-

and the chars that dont have atr bonus are in the top right column....cant remmeber the name but i do remember one day....that was i looking thru all the chars cuase i was wondering y i only see master rogue, healer, pheonix ranger, sometimes savior, the tanks, and ele (hella lots of them)....

neway o.o nuff ranting....i has some questions too :DD
like....why are there like doubles of items o.o (like the azeroth armors and stuff)...theres (NAME) 1, (NAME) 2, (NAME), and (NAME)
i get that one of the unnumbered and one of the numbered are stronger than the other (ones rare and others normal/leg or something....)

and....are u gonna buff up the nations?
cause the units/towers are crap against the hero ><
nations are only fun if both sides agree to only use creeps/towers and not their hero....
(and if u have lvl infusion :DD)

yayy o.o my own wall of text

 
GhostWolf223Date: Tuesday, 2011-05-17, 5:22:45 AM | Message # 223
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they are diffrent proficientcys+stats/abilitys :P

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Sandman366Date: Tuesday, 2011-05-17, 1:39:14 PM | Message # 224
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walls of text Dx
and dang everyone uses quotes around here -.-

Walls of text can happen when you have a comment.
And yeah, quotes are to show what part of the port you're replying to.
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and the chars that dont have atr bonus are in the top right column....cant remmeber the name but i do remember one day....that was i looking thru all the chars cuase i was wondering y i only see master rogue, healer, pheonix ranger, sometimes savior, the tanks, and ele (hella lots of them)....

There are people that use other ones, but most people seem to be sticking to ones that have strong skills lol
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like....why are there like doubles of items o.o (like the azeroth armors and stuff)...theres (NAME) 1, (NAME) 2, (NAME), and (NAME)
i get that one of the unnumbered and one of the numbered are stronger than the other (ones rare and others normal/leg or something....)

First, the name is Azazoth, Azeroth is one of the BNet realms.
Second...I don't understand part of this question. You mean the +#? It means it's upgraded. Lik Leg Thana Wings +5 is way stronger than Leg Thana Wings.
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and....are u gonna buff up the nations?
cause the units/towers are crap against the hero ><
nations are only fun if both sides agree to only use creeps/towers and not their hero....
(and if u have lvl infusion :DD)

...who PvPs with Nation units? But yeah, all the nation units really suck. Even Demon nation units suck without having like 10-20 upgrades on everything, and still they aren't very good. I once had like 20 Demon Nation units against A SINGLE DEMON (the very first chaotic world creep. Not Demon Wizard, just Demon) and had like 10 upgrades I think on all of the guys on all of the infantry upgrades. Actually it was a dozen of the weaker melee guys and a dozen of the ranged guys I think (that I used) and they couldn't kill A SINGLE DEMON. So yeah, they are extremely weak. Just don't use them.
Ahh crap..... iRambled.....(iHate CRApple....don't have an iPhail....nor an iPoo....crap... iRambled...)


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TinyRaskalsDate: Tuesday, 2011-05-17, 1:59:21 PM | Message # 225
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lol ok.....im not a hacker or anything
but when u open the map in world editor
if u go to objects editor and then items tab
theres 2 sets of those items
and xD i just remember most names by the first two letters sooo it was az-something and azeroth sounded rite
 
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