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| EGhost | Date: Tuesday, 2011-10-25, 8:25:56 AM | Message # 1 |
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| It seems like every game i join on a BGN bot, whether i create it or not, someone says " Move off red and blue, they're bugged". I've heard everything from red causes desync or disconnection to red gains no exp. I've been red several times just to test this and haven't found a problem with it. Has anyone??? I searched for something related to this on the site and couldn't find anything so i thought I'd bring it up and see what y'all thought. Thanks
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| GhostWolf223 | Date: Tuesday, 2011-10-25, 9:07:41 AM | Message # 2 |
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| its cause its true :P
red is bugged i believe blue is bugged as well
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| NOCFeRnAl | Date: Tuesday, 2011-10-25, 6:39:39 PM | Message # 3 |
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| neither red nor blue are bugged.
I'm playin every time on red. Nothing happen'z...
What about desync, it is in 100% times caused by bot.
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| GhostWolf223 | Date: Tuesday, 2011-10-25, 6:47:05 PM | Message # 4 |
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| i never desync when no ones red or blue
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red can take medean worker from any other player i believe
red is bugged i know i just dont know about blue
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| NOCFeRnAl | Date: Tuesday, 2011-10-25, 11:55:05 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Quote (GhostWolf223) red can take medean worker from any other player i believe
thats why i'm on red. it's positive side is.
u won't be desynced if game will be hosted via another player. bot cause dcync.
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| Alexeng | Date: Wednesday, 2011-10-26, 5:40:15 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Bots do NOT cause desyncs. I've played over 200 games on the same bot with no errors, about 20 games on another, over 30 freaking 2h+ strategy maps, and I'm not going to start on how many games I've played/hosted on my own bot. I've had several desyncs when a player hosted too. Desyncs are mostly caused by using non-local code in local blocks, in which case it doesn't matter if it's a bot or player hosting.
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| NOCFeRnAl | Date: Saturday, 2011-10-29, 0:29:36 AM | Message # 7 |
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| that doesn't mean that red\blue causes desyncs, isn't it?
and btw. BGN bot refers to another clan.
play on LoBott.
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| Alexeng | Date: Saturday, 2011-10-29, 6:20:04 AM | Message # 8 |
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| I never said they did.
Second line: what..? Nobody said anything about a specific bot..?
Not playing wc3 that much nowadays, if at all, so probably won't try LoBott.
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| Paranoia | Date: Saturday, 2011-10-29, 6:30:42 AM | Message # 9 |
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| To fix desyncs is actually extremely simple. Restart your warcraft 3 client after each game of CoT. Not re-login, restart. This will cause you to not de-sync. However, those who do not restart wc3 after each game, WILL still desync; however you will stay in the same game state. This has been checked and proven by Ceshun a year or two ago.
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| EGhost | Date: Tuesday, 2011-11-01, 9:50:20 AM | Message # 10 |
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| I am aware that restarting fixes desyncs, my point was that I've never had a problem playing as either red or blue, and all I play is CoT, literally, yet I constantly hear that they are bugged. I do not believe they are.
Also, no offense NOCFeRnAl, I'd use Lobott, it actually seems to be a more stable bot for cot games. But the BGN dedicated CoT bot actually gets the required 4 people to start a game within 5 mins or so....usually. If you wait for the Lobott game to get 4 people then you may as well leave it running and come back tomorrow and then there MIGHT be 1 more person in there with you, which leaves you waiting for 2 more. Sorry, but it's true.
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| Sandman366 | Date: Tuesday, 2011-11-01, 5:07:39 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Restarting WC3 technically doesn't fix desync. You just lower the chance of it happening. There is no such thing as a permanent fix. There will always be a map that allows you to do the same actions over and over again....and get different results.
Blue as far as I've known is just fine, unless something happened to it in the last version or so. I know red has had issues in the past, so I avoid it, but as far as I know, blue should be fine.
And, no offense EGhost, I'd actually use my own bot, because then I can play solo all day long and still be able to play that same character with others.
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| darkchaos | Date: Wednesday, 2011-11-02, 1:19:30 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Its one of the mysteries of cot :P
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| Paranoia | Date: Wednesday, 2011-11-02, 9:10:46 AM | Message # 13 |
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| Quote (Sandman366) Restarting WC3 technically doesn't fix desync. You just lower the chance of it happening. There is no such thing as a permanent fix.
It is a fix, in my personal experience. You need to restart your client after every game, however, otherwise the chances are risen again. Since I started restarting my client after each game, I have not had a desync in over 300 or so games. So, if it is just lowering the chances of it happening, it is dramatically lowering the chances to below 1%. But like I said,
Quote (Paranoia) . However, those who do not restart wc3 after each game, WILL still desync; however you will stay in the same game state.
Will still have a chance of desyncing, rather.
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| Sandman366 | Date: Wednesday, 2011-11-02, 3:25:08 PM | Message # 14 |
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| What I find strange is when you desync and the bot kicks everyone, because that makes no sense. Why can't it get the two gamestates on their own to work? Just split into "two games", because it would technically work. In one game, kick players in the other game, and vice versa. Kicking certain people might make sense too. But kicking everyone? Not does sense make this.
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| FreakShow | Date: Wednesday, 2011-11-02, 4:59:51 PM | Message # 15 |
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| If you're using BGN bot. It kicks the group of people with the smallest amount of players. Also retarting your client doesn't "fix" the desync problem, but it lowers the chance down to 0,01%, also, if you do in-houses (4-8 man leveling team) neither of you should retart client, and just run asap after the first game, and you shoud all be in same game-state :). On LoBott there is still desyncing, but it doesn't kick anyone. I know It's less populated which is why I use it for inhouses.
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