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TheLastShaperDate: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 12:14:04 PM | Message # 1
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I don't know if it's a bannable offense, but I've noticed a lot of people have begun to posses Forgotten units, and use them in struggle/Azza. If it is, here's one person. If not then I think it should be.

Thought I had one of his hero, but I must of miss it. And he wasn't on USEast.



 
Sandman366Date: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 1:28:35 PM | Message # 2
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5 struggle rings? Where's the point in THAT?

Anyway, even if it's not a map-ban offense (which it probably is, because I believe it's an exploit) I'm quite sure Ceshun will have fun gettin' him.


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AlexengDate: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 2:32:13 PM | Message # 3
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The point with 5 struggle rings is that they give the most stats before chaotic boss items.

Don't belive it's an exploit, there are atleast 3 easy ways to fix it:
1) Make Forgotten units higher level than scepter can possess.
2) Remove scepter at CW start.
3) Make scepter unobtainable.

But hey, I don't decide who's to be banned, so we will just have to see.


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Sandman366Date: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 3:05:43 PM | Message # 4
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1) Make Forgotten units higher level than scepter can possess.

It's supposed to max at like, level 5.

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2) Remove scepter at CW start.
3) Make scepter unobtainable.

These might work, but wouldn't totally fix it. Charm still can get Forgotten I think.

DC tried to fix controlling forgotten by giving workers spell immune, he should just remove charm and scepter to make things easy. Plus if he did that, Forgotten workers wouldn't need spell immune, and depending when they're removed (like unobtainable, or can't use, or removed at CW) he might be able to remove Evil Shopkeeper's spell immune, but for him I think we could leave it. Squishy vs spells (and immolation hurts a lot lol)


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TheLastShaperDate: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 5:17:06 PM | Message # 5
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He wasn't using Scepter. He used the Mysterious house units.

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5 struggle rings? Where's the point in THAT?

Mainly because I've had absolutely no luck getting boss items. I haven't even seen a rare wings since I started farming.





Message edited by TheLastShaper - Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 5:19:33 PM
 
Sandman366Date: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 5:27:24 PM | Message # 6
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He wasn't using Scepter. He used the Mysterious house units.

Mysterious House Units have charming stuff?
...that seems rigged.

PS: Is he even legit? 11 hours on 999 (okay, maybe) but he's not tomed his stats at all. Unless he knew he'd be abusing Forgotten, why didn't he tome? And did he have help on goddesses?
What hero was he anyway? I'm guessing PR/MR, since he's got 16k agi (okay maybe he tomed a little) but he's still got only 16k agi and not even 2k strength with 33 plats. and 10 arcs.
Wouldn't happen to have a replay...would'ja......cuz I'd also like to know what items he had....(curious)


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Cross the invisible line...
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Message edited by Sandman366 - Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 5:31:56 PM
 
TheLastShaperDate: Tuesday, 2011-04-26, 9:17:32 PM | Message # 7
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He was a PR. No replay, I never turned the auto-save thing on last time I installed.
Two rare aces, azza's Heavy weapon, rare wings, Lexium, and something else. I can't remember.



 
AlexengDate: Wednesday, 2011-04-27, 7:50:09 AM | Message # 8
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Mysterious House Units have charming stuff?
...that seems rigged.
It is rigged, trust me. Just before I turned off yesterday I tried this, and having 12+ Forgotten units makes you able to kill 7-8 Astrals at once without a problem.
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PS: Is he even legit? 11 hours on 999 (okay, maybe) but he's not tomed his stats at all. Unless he knew he'd be abusing Forgotten, why didn't he tome? And did he have help on goddesses?
What hero was he anyway? I'm guessing PR/MR, since he's got 16k agi (okay maybe he tomed a little) but he's still got only 16k agi and not even 2k strength with 33 plats. and 10 arcs.
Shouldn't judge how legit someone is based on their base stats. I only ever tome to about 10-20k all stats because I'm lazy. tongue But his amount of plat seems suspicous. If you use Forgotten to power-level yourself from 600 to 999 and have PC on you will get atleast 500 plat, maybe over 1000 but I havn't had a level 999 yet.


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Message edited by Alexeng - Wednesday, 2011-04-27, 7:55:22 AM
 
Sandman366Date: Wednesday, 2011-04-27, 1:31:36 PM | Message # 9
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Could also depend if he were using Forgotten in Struggle. If he managed to get them there, then he could get a lot of levels without getting too much cash. However, even with 2-3 plat every run and the bunch at the end, that still messes up the math. So he must not've had auto-converter.

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Cross the invisible line...
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FreakShowDate: Saturday, 2011-05-07, 7:30:17 AM | Message # 10
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Have never heard of that guy. I knew about the bug, and I must say it's clever. His plat/arc ruins it for him, even though he used forgotten to lvl in Struggle it would still be 25/25 per run.
Hammer, Lex, rare wings, and 2 rare aces seems awfully lucky for 8 and a half hour. I vote ban for this one,


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Sandman366Date: Saturday, 2011-05-07, 7:57:59 AM | Message # 11
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I thought 999 in 9 hours with 33 plats was what killed his legitimacy. (Unless he just got near end of struggle and suicided before he won, which'd be stupid too)

Malevolent criminal I,
when the vision paints my mind.
Cross the invisible line...
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