I can think of having more levels, but due to the fact that everything scales with stats, I don't see a reason to just upgrade skill levels. It's best to make the skills more enjoyable (with bigger changes) after a certain amount of levels, and also use it's values to easily balance out everything.
Yes balance requirements will show in test stage of the new version...
In latest versions it is mostly the level requirement on items that slows down the evolution.
I remember older versions where there was no level requirement. You could luckily kill a highlevel boss or just follow Savior for good usable drops. And get like 4000 dps with level 2...
It was one unique and enjoyable feature of PomFoC to rise quickly. The lategame was more slowly anyway.
New Save/Load system (CodeGen) Some items that weren't saveable do save: Ultimate Hydra's Spear, Savior's Cloak, Cheese Sheild and Medean Devourer Egg Backpack is now saveable as well New item type introduced: Divine (e.g. Aura of Gods and Godslayer Set) Save's now create a file with your code under your "Documents/Warcraft III/Custom Map Data/CoT PoM FoC N" folder Savior's Cloak now is dropable by Dark Savior Savior's Cloak new stats - 1000 Health Regeneration - Reincarnation (15 min cooldown) Aura of Gods now has a correct the correct template tooltip. Aura of Gods now gives the better stats from Gods items. - Worldwide blink - Fire damage modifier (Splash) - 2.000 Immolation damage - 200 Regeneration - 4.000 Damage - 9.999 All stats - 4.000 Armor Despair Set AGI is now more balanced - Damage increased from 79.000 to 180.000 - Armor increased from 11.000 to 16.000 - Agility increased from 21.000 to 98.000 - Strength and Intelligence increased from 4.000 to 15.000 New set item: Godslayer Set (Level requirement: 100) - 5000 Damage - 2500 Armor - 1000 Regeneration - Lightninig attack modifier - 50% chance deal 3 times damage - Reincarnation (15 minutes cooldown) -- Recipe - Great Savior's Sword - Savior's Armor - Savior's Cloak - 1 PC and 1 AL Gods Slayer now uses the Godslayer Set item instead of Savior's Armor. Cache for Single Player play should be working correctly now (still doesn't save other values such as Gold, Lumber, PCs, ALs, Honor - which doesn't make much sense either - Play time and Colloseum XP). If you're really interested in this feature to be fully functional, I can nicely finish this. Added more trees to make bases more balanced Removed units and factions to be acquireable: - All hireable units from the Cathedral - Removed factions from Biggers Homes: Fel Orc Capital, Pig Encapment, Pupa Blood Capitol, The Fallen Lords (Factions are going to be completely reworked to make the gameplay more fluent into chaos mode, and also make the factions more balanced in between them) Dark Savior reworked with new a complete new set of abilities (All scalable with attributes) - Medean Lightning (Chain Lightning blast in one target enemy) - Freezing Blast (Freeze followed by a Frost Nova on taget enemy) - Dark Sword (Active ability modifier that add more damage through attacks with cost of mana per hit) - Metamorphosis Now Iron Golem Ores have a chance of dropping from almost every unit on the normal map (0.5% chance). Fixed a bug in which the incorrect level message were showing when trying to pick up an item.
Message edited by HotwerNevermore - Wednesday, 2017-05-31, 0:04:24 AM
Alot of levels in skills allow to balance snowballing of hero more precisely. I believe that supposed to work this way. Well in terms of CoT its really mostly PvE so why do one need balance there, no?
Also !!!Please!!! dont put orb based attack modifiers in any sets. Like Cold or Fire or Lightning attack, or Corruption. When the world comes to an end, Will u stay with me, my friend?
Message edited by NOCFeRnAl - Thursday, 2017-06-01, 7:26:26 AM
Alot of levels in skills allow to balance snowballing of hero more precisely. I believe that supposed to work this way. Well in terms of CoT its really mostly PvE so why do one need balance there, no?
It is, but it creates a lot of overhead on the loading time. And the game has a well known big loading time, so there are alternatives using triggers (like using the hero level as multiplier as well with the stats, So the skill progression trough levels are still there, and the precise snowball) or using a Skill Level up screen, and other things. There's not need to rely on the object editor (I tried to use something simillar to add bonus stats). In time, I will think in something that doesn't create overhead, but still can give alot of variety and options).
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Also !!!Please!!! dont put orb based attack modifiers in any sets. Like Cold or Fire or Lightning attack, or Corruption.
I agree, there's no need to keep that.
Added (2017-06-01, 3:56:18 PM) --------------------------------------------- Some updates and bugfixes on version 1.30.1b
- Fixed a bug were you could hear a sound the sound of priest diying and could've selected it while casting Dark Savior's Freezing Blast. - Added 8000 strength to Horror Set STR - Fixed Horror Set Create recipe description and the line-spacing in other recipes. - Increased Dark Savior's Freezing Blast AOE from 200 to 400. - Now it's impossible to save the game with Dark Savior while in Demon Form - Shortned Map name to "CoT RPG: PoM FoC Nevermore" style - Possibly fix a problem that game would freeze for some seconds after picking a hero
WARN: DON'T TRY TO LOAD THE GAME IF YOU SAVED IT WITH DARK SAVIOR WHILE MORPHED WITH METAMORPHOSIS OTHERWISE IT WILL CRASH THE MAP
Some if not most generalized items in the chaos world where you have to actively kill mobs i.e horror, void, demonic etc, should be raised a bit because there shouldn't be any given time where you have to farm for hours for a single item if you're remotely lucky, playing currently at the time of creating this post that I've spent about 2-3 hours in this single game killing horrors and haven't obtained a single bow, its as non existent as the sin weapon and armor that's from the only thing in game that annoys everyone that only one hero can actually kill. I personally have an issue with not being rewarded for the time and effort being put into trying to get something that shouldn't be rarer than Thanatos legendary wings back in 1.22b where I got two in a single game back to back.
Edit: Note this is for a PR and in the span of said time I've obtained 5 leather pieces within an hour.
Message edited by devilxshadow9982 - Saturday, 2017-06-03, 7:38:47 AM
Not sure what's the problem. This skill has only one level (or few, I will recheck it) and once you get it, it scales with Agility.
He meant theres no displayed ability in abilities section for hero user to check what it exactly does. just blank slot. When the world comes to an end, Will u stay with me, my friend?
- Fixed some DISBTN buttons - Put the correct icon type on the Chaotic Damage/Armor and Stats - Fixed a bug that caused the item carried by the Sponsor which may cause it to complete the Vengefull Paladin Quest - Fixed problem were Godslayer Set were destroying the item in the first slot - Fixed problem were Dark Summoner summons could have problems entering Infinit Struggle and it's heroes would be counted as normal heroes - Added vision to the whole Town Boundry to all players - Possibly fixed problem which may have caused the Backpacks to not load correctly in multiplayer games when loading almost simultaneously - Added Resources List and Credits in Quest Logs.
1. If too many monsters are in the infinity struggle and Dark Savior activates his metamophosis causing the surface damage extremely low FPS. It is hardly playable yet.
2. Dark Savior Balance: his abilitys are to weak on early. need a buff. seems ok if he reach lvl 301, but he need more skill levels on this abilitys and higher multipliert to get stronger in lategame.
3. Dark Saviors Metamorph Ability need a better detailed description. (No details known)
4. Dark Savior need another "weapon proficiency" (Staff - Cloth) because all his abilitys and mainstat on INT-based.
5. Would be nice if you can nerf the Boss Arcaden near the Gods. he is harder to kill than the Gods self.
greetings
Message edited by richardstein7 - Wednesday, 2017-06-07, 6:03:45 AM
1. If too many monsters are in the infinity struggle and Dark Savior activates his metamophosis causing the surface damage extremely low FPS. It is hardly playable yet.
2. Dark Savior Balance: his abilitys are to weak on early. need a buff. seems ok if he reach lvl 301, but he need more skill levels on this abilitys and higher multipliert to get stronger in lategame.
3. Dark Saviors Metamorph Ability need a better detailed description. (No details known)
4. Dark Savior need another "weapon proficiency" (Staff - Cloth) because all his abilitys and mainstat on INT-based.
5. Would be nice if you can nerf the Boss Arcaden near the Gods. he is harder to kill than the Gods self.
Thanks for the reports.
5. It is really weird, but, by now, it's almost a signature. Maybe we can change that in the future, but I think he's still be like that (come to think of it, he's a Godslayer, he should be stronger than the Gods, in a lore perspective).
HotwerNevermore has been promoted to lead game designer group. However, I forgot the password to the control panel and as such I cannot do this, so I hope that valkier will do this on my behalf. Thanks again!
Thanks again for everything you have done so far and in the future, HotwerNevermore!
Or you could use the bug report thread that that was actually made a week ago.
That way, you know, people in that thread, and people who don't use discord can keep up with what's been reported. Malevolent criminal I, when the vision paints my mind. Cross the invisible line... ...and you'll be paid in kind.
